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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 12, 2024 5:49:06 GMT
Hello. I've made some split-screen pictures and i want to add a panel mask on top of one or two of the images inside the split-screen editor. I make the shape, choose the video asset and then the program just disappears. I can't make mask layers for every split-screen picture outside of the subeditor since i would need to have fifty mask layers only for these. Once i hit the OK button, PS closes unexpectedly. What can i do? It just stops working. Attachments:
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Post by Candive on Mar 12, 2024 15:03:05 GMT
Hi, mgeorgieva , So just to confirm, when you are adding the element (video/photo) to the mask, the program crashes? First question; what version of PS are you using? Now I'm using PS26 and I believe I was able to successfully replicate what I think you are trying to do. As a general rule to myself, whenever I'm doing something complex in PS, I'll do it in stages. What I have found is if you edit for too long or complex, the system will start to lag and even crash. So out of habit I frequently save my project and I even restart the program to "refresh it." So If I was doing your project, I would do the following (this is an extreme example to make a point) Create the split screen and add the initial elements (video/photos) - Let it render. Save the project. Restart PS Add Keyframes for movement - Let it render. Save the project. Restart PS Create the mask - Let it render. Save the project. Restart PS Add element to mask - Let it render. Save the project. Restart PS Like I said this is an extreme example but you get the general idea. Try it to see if it works. If you are still having issues, we'll dig deeper.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 12, 2024 19:00:11 GMT
Thank you very much, Candive. The PS version is 26.2. I tried what you said. I made a new movie with only the last few minutes of the audio and slides. Everything worked smoothly. Before, it was not even able to play the audio. Then, with a new project, things worked a lot better. Though now i face another problem. Two thirds of my project (the first two thirds) were in another project. When i decided to open it, it turned out that it doesn't show up. The last project had overridden the two previous projects i had (one was just for backup). Now i'm only able to open the last part. Autosave doesn't help either. Was it wrong that all the projects were in one and the same folder? Have you experienced such a problem before?
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Post by Candive on Mar 12, 2024 20:53:58 GMT
Oh no, I'm not sure what you did? This has never happened to me. It sounds like you accidentally overwritten both projects but I'm not sure how you did it? If the projects had different names they should not have been overwritten. It shouldn't have mattered if they were in the same folder As part of my process, I typically make version numbers of my project so that I don't overwrite the previous project. For example, I might not like the changes I made in the new project so its easy just to go back to the previous project. eg. hiking_trip_01, hiking_trip_02, hiking_trip_03 etc. Also, in each version I use the project notes to list what changes I made. For a typical project I usually have at least 5 versions. Once the project is exported into a movie I'll keep the last version and delete the earlier ones. Unless other forum members have a suggestion, you may need to start over. Look on the bright side - good practice!
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 13, 2024 9:30:56 GMT
Thank you, Candive. Sorry for misspelling your name the last time. Thank you for taking up the topic and trying to help. I really don't know what i've messed up. My experience with PS is quite troublesome and i have only 4 days left from my 30-day money-back guarantee, so i don't know if i would keep it. Really. I may sign up for a month to the Studio Backlot website to download the stock footages. And use some other software. Sorry, but it's so troublesome when it comes to export. My first project used to export to the last frame and stop there, not finishing. This one - i don't know how many times i've tried to render it, at different places. What i wanted to do at the beginning of this post - make a mask layer inside the subeditor and use a video behind one of the split-screen images, i tried it with a video layer between the two, at a separate AV track, and it refused to render, in all the images i did this with. I'm sorry, you are a really nice community but this just takes too much time. And a question to you, Candive, do you have any experience with Vegas, for example? The Post option (the most advanced one) is quite pricey but may be more stable, i guess?
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Post by Candive on Mar 13, 2024 19:20:48 GMT
Hi mgeorgieva , Since you are having problems with Pinnacle Studio my advice would be to seek a refund; for a number of reasons. And the following is my own personal opinion. Typically I would recommend another program called Videostudio 2023 Ultimate. In fact you can get a 30 day trial of Videostudio Ultimate and this version is currently cheaper than Pinnacle Studio (in my location). It is Pinnacle's little brother and more consumer oriented. I learned video editing on Videostudio before using Pinnacle Studio. I own both programs. In some cases it shares the same features as Pinnacle Studio such as split screen which you are currently using. Since you know how to use split screen in Pinnacle, you will know how to use it in Videostudio. You mentioned Studio Backlot. I subscribe to this service for its stock footage, overlays, sounds and projects. More importantly it has excellent video training in both Pinnacle Studio and Video Studio. Its a great resource and I highly recommend it. But here is the problem. Alludo, the company that owns both Pinnacle Studio and Videostudio recently closed down the company sponsored User Forums. This forum and the Videostudio forum have been created by the users so that we can still communicate and help each other. Here is the link to the Videostudio Forum: Paintshop Pro and Videostudio Forum It appears, and this is my personal opinion, that Alludo will no longer be developing these two video editors going forward along with some other programs. Videostudio 2024 should have been released last February but it wasn't. What this means is no further enhancements, features or optimisation to the software. There may be minor bug fixes but that's about it. Things may change, but at this point of time, the future looks bleak. You can still buy the software, just understand that it may not be further developed or supported in the future so I am reluctant to recommend these products to new users. I along with many other members on this forum, are trialing different editors in light of Alludo's actions. I am currently trialing Vegas as an alternative editor. Its more of a professional editor and I must say it has a unique editing methodology which you have to get use to but once you get the hang of it, you should be fine. Can it do what you are trying to achieve with split screen and masks, I personally don't have the experience to answer that question. I'm just a beginner. The best person to ask on this forum is tonyp who is a Vegas Pro experienced user. Tony may chime in on this post. Also, the members on the Vegas Pro forum are very helpful. Vegas Pro Forum But unfortunately you are entering into this video editing arena at a very interesting time. The company that owns Vegas Pro; Magix, has just recently gone into self administration; meaning that its broke. So the future of Vegas Pro and the other video/audio products owned by Magix is in question at this stage. The link below covers our discussion regarding Magix. I also update the members on my current activity of reviewing different video editors which you may find informative. pinnaclesystems.freeforums.net/thread/100/magix-neverending-story-consumer-death In light of these facts there may be other video editors you may want to consider. But if you do decide to go with Alludo or Magix offerings, be sure there will be volunteers on the user forums to help you.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 14, 2024 9:34:52 GMT
Thank you very much, Candive, i really appreciate that you took the time to answer. Well, i've been researching video-editing programs for at least three months. I had VideoStudio for eight days before i returned it. It used to stop working unexpectedly and had some codec issue, so the playback was not synced with the video. Then i bought Pinnacle Studio and i like it. If it was not for these constant crashes and even the inability to retain a project as it has to be (the backup versions i have made did not load properly, the loaded at a very early stage), i would surely keep it. I've tried Movavi, Filmora, i have Smartshow 3D, and the one which seems closest, when it comes to capabilities, is Vegas. They have a discount now and from another website the Edit version is even more discounted, now for only 150 dollars. This is affordable, provided that i receive my money back from Alludo. Yet the Edit version lacks the specific masking tools which the Post version has, and the Post version costs too much for me (i'm from Bulgaria and the living standards here are quite lower compared to the US). So i really like PS, but i don't know what to do. I've installed Magix as well, and Davinci, even some other program i had not heard of - Lightworks, though these don't suit my needs. When looking at these other products, i realized how valuable PS is! It's so sad that Corel have sold their product and they have stopped developing it. This means that we won't be getting many bug fixes. And the program may not become more stable. I have only two days to make a decision. I read some things around the forums. They say that Magix is broke. And now it's like choosing between two EOLs. Such a conundrum.
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Post by saby on Mar 14, 2024 10:01:07 GMT
Corel did not sell their products, nor was not acquired by another company. It's simply a rebranding of the company. Its new name is Alludo. They kept the old names of their products portfolios: Corel, Pinnacle, ... The fact that it is likely that they are letting some of them die slowly is another thing.
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Post by tonyp on Mar 14, 2024 10:15:15 GMT
@mgeogieva, what created the videos that you edit? What are your computer specs? When things are out of sync, that usually points to a variable frame rate video, such as created by cellphones or capture software. Video editing software require constant frame rate videos to remain in sync.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 14, 2024 10:23:31 GMT
Hello, tonyp, thank you for the reply. I'm making slideshows. I don't have many other videos than those from the Backlot site, mainly. The audio recordings are made with Audacity (and edited with it). I've had such issues with another program and converting the MP3 with another program seemed a nice workaround. I contacted support and they asked me to do an audit of the system. After i sent it, they didn't answer. It seems that they may have closed the ticket before. Now the audio and visuals are synced, no problem with that. The problem was in VideoStudio. The problem here is the constant crashing. The processor is not overloaded, neither is the graphic card. I have an Intel i-5 processor (11th generation), 2 GB NVidia graphic card, 24 GB RAM (ddr4), and it's an SSD drive. Windows 10. The system requirements are far less. Though the program does not use them. Sometimes it crashes when it uses only 1.5 GB of RAM. If it could use more, i guess, it would not crash so much, or? I've tried with/without hardware acceleration and with/without additional codecs. And the hardware acceleration allows the program to use just a little bit more RAM (sometimes up to 2.5 GB) but it still crashes. I don't want to leave it. But the thing with the overwriting of the projects is also hard to swallow. So, any advice would be appreciated.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 14, 2024 10:32:55 GMT
saby, thanks for explaining the situation with Corel and the products. With no advancement, these two would surely leave the scene but if a program is good, it's still nice to have it, even if it's not supported. Like Proshow when they closed the company - people are still using it. Here it's at least a better situation - it can be bought. While Proshow cannot.
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Post by tonyp on Mar 14, 2024 11:17:45 GMT
mgeorgieva, thanks for the reply and clarification. Have you tried exporting as a WAV file in Audacity? As for your computer specs, i5 11th gen is really no information. CPU make/model is,like in my computer specs at the bottom. Are you graphics drivers up to date? The minimum specs to use the software to me, has always been underplayed by Corel. Sure, the software will load and run, but how smooth will it be? Also, a lot depends also on what other software you have installed on your computer. Where do you have your Storage location? A photo slideshow should be easy to do. And if you have Videostudio Pro installed, you get Fastflix (or something like that), where you can set things up for a photo slide show. Also, in Pinnacle, there is Smartmovie. Have you tried that? As for what appears to be no further support for the products, that doesn't make the product any less useful. I am still using Microsoft Office 2003.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 14, 2024 11:53:28 GMT
Thank you, tonyp, the processor is i5-1135G7. It's from 2.4 to 4.2 GHz. The graphic card is NVidia Geforce MX330. The storage location is in C:, though there are at least from 20 to 30 GB free most of the time. SmartMovie is nice for quick videos. Though with me it's usually from 30 minutes to an hour, and i need to make additional adjustments. I really like the mask layer function. And also the ability to place overlay clips. The graphic driver was installed through the Dell driver app, so there's no space for a mistake on my part. There aren't many programs either. I just installed Windows, a month ago, when i bought VideoStudio. About trying to export the audio from Audacity in WAV and using it, you made me very interested. And now i'm going to share something interesting which happened: you may have read the first post - my problem with the program crashing when i have a video mask layer INSIDE the subeditor (outside it didn't crash but this would mean 50 mask layers, since they are panel masks and not shape masks and need a whole layer, even though i may need the mask for 10 seconds), with the WAV audio it's exporting now with NO PROBLEM. That's crazy. And there are no playback issues (syncing). The only problem now is: how to stop my projects from overwriting each other or saving an early version (with slides flying all around the tracks, and many holes, before i do the syncing)? Why do they get saved at random stages, at whichever phase the program decides to?
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Post by Candive on Mar 14, 2024 23:14:47 GMT
The only problem now is: how to stop my projects from overwriting each other or saving an early version (with slides flying all around the tracks, and many holes, before i do the syncing)? Why do they get saved at random stages, at whichever phase the program decides to? Hi mgeorgieva, If you go into Control Panel/Project Settings you can change the field for Auto saving your project. Mine is set for every 5 minutes. As a personal rule, when you open an old project and you want to make changes, before doing any editing, save the project under a different name or version. Then start editing. That guarantees you will not save over your previous project.
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Post by mgeorgieva on Mar 15, 2024 7:59:25 GMT
Thank you, Candive, i'll try this in the next project. The fact is that it this one which was screwed up i may have relied on autosaves because i did save my project but when i started a new one the previous ones got overwritten. They may have been different stages. And some parts of the project were never recovered. By now i've made only two projects on Pinnacle (each of them a presentation, 30-minutes long. I've used VideoStudio but i like that i have more control here. Next time i will definitely backup my projects carefully. Since the program is slow at times and i was advised to do the editing in parts (for example, 10-minute long parts work better. And the program works more smoothly with WAV files, as the advise was. The internal codecs the program uses may not be covering my MP3 files well. I had playback issues. When i changed the audio, there was a significant change. And then i put a long video in a nested project and got the program to render it, just for the experiment (as even a 10-second overlay clip would not render if nested). And it worked, with no issues. That's the only issue - overwriting the projects. Yet if this gets resolved, i'll be most happy to continue using the program and prefer it before the competitor ones.
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