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hojac
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Post by hojac on Feb 19, 2024 15:52:45 GMT
Saby hat im französischen Teil dieses Forums eine sehr interessante Liste der Pinnacle Studio-Versionen mit Erscheinungsdatum veröffentlicht. Ich möchte hier einige Informationen über die alte, alte Zeit hinzufügen: Ich begann meine Videobearbeitung im Juni 1995 mit Gold Disk VideoDirector V1 (herausgegeben im Mai 1993) und V2.0 (herausgegeben im August 1994). Pinnacle Systems kaufte Gold Disk Video Director V2.5 im Juni 1996 *) und führte die Weiterentwicklung mit V3.0 und Video Studio 400 (herausgegeben im September 1998) durch. Mit dieser Version habe ich damals gearbeitet. Ich gehe davon aus, dass die Weiterentwicklung das Pinnacle Studio war. Meine erste Version war Pinnacle Studio V8. Übrigens: Das VideoDirector-Programm steuert den Camcorder mit der Videoquelle und steuert einen Videorecorder mit dem resultierenden Videoband und hinzugefügten Titeln, Standbildern, Ton und Musik (z. B. Smartsound!). *) Das Kaufdatum wurde in der Readme-Datei von VideoDirector V3.0 erwähnt: „Pressekontakt: Frank O'Mahony, Pinnacle Systems, Inc. … “ Pinnacle schließt den Kauf der Video Director-Technologie von Gold Disk Sunnyvale, CA ab.“ – 5. Juni 1996 – Pinnacle Systems (NASDAQ:PCLE), ein führender Anbieter digitaler 3D-Videoeffekte, gab die Übernahme von Video Director bekannt, um seine Expertise im Bereich der Videomanipulationstechnologie zu nutzen und den aufstrebenden Markt für Heimkino-Enthusiasten zu erreichen , das preisgekrönte Videosoftwarepaket von Gold Disk Inc. mit Sitz in Santa Clara, Kalifornien …
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Post by saby on Feb 19, 2024 15:56:35 GMT
@ hojac
Next time, please, post in English.
Translation of hojac's post :
Saby has published a very interesting list of Pinnacle Studio versions with release dates in the French part of this forum. I would like to add some information here about the old, old days: I started my video editing in June 1995 with Gold Disk VideoDirector V1 (released May 1993) and V2.0 (released August 1994). Pinnacle Systems purchased Gold Disk Video Director V2.5 in June 1996*) and continued development with V3.0 and Video Studio 400 (released September 1998). I worked with this version back then. I assume that the further development was Pinnacle Studio. My first version was Pinnacle Studio V8. By the way: the VideoDirector program controls the camcorder with the video source and controls a VCR with the resulting videotape and added titles, stills, sound and music (e.g. Smartsound!).
*) The purchase date was mentioned in the Readme file of VideoDirector V3.0: “Press Contact: Frank O'Mahony, Pinnacle Systems, Inc. … “ Pinnacle Completes Acquisition of Video Director Technology from Gold Disk Sunnyvale, CA." - June 5, 1996 - Pinnacle Systems (NASDAQ:PCLE), a leading provider of 3D digital video effects, announced the acquisition of Video Director to enhance its Leveraging expertise in video manipulation technology and reaching the emerging home theater enthusiast market, Gold Disk Inc.'s award-winning video software package based in Santa Clara, California...
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hojac
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Post by hojac on Feb 19, 2024 16:02:24 GMT
Sorry Saby, I posted this text in English by copy and paste. I don't know why it is in German. Maybe it was translated automatically?
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Post by saby on Feb 19, 2024 16:10:36 GMT
It's not the 1st time this weird thing happens. Might be related to the presence of Google Translate in the header of the forum. We need to disable it if we don't want this forum to become a new Babbel's tower.
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Post by Candive on Feb 19, 2024 20:21:04 GMT
Hi tndtnd hojac , Thanks for your memories. I'm not sure what that yellow disc was used for - maybe a clean surface to place your camcorder if you were outdoors filming? hojac , back in 1995, the only way I was transferring my home video to VHS was a direct transfer without any editing. I didn't know about Gold Disk Video Director so I googled how the system worked since I wasn't aware of any digital transfer at the time using say Windows 3.1 or 95. What codecs were available then? Surprisingly the product is still being sold on ebay. Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that you would connect your camcorder to your PC with a special cable and start playing the tape. The computer would record a time marker every time you pressed a button on in the software (and perhaps take a screen shot?). Then once the tape was finished you could move these time markers around to order your "clips". It also looks like you could add titles and music files. Once complete and ready to transfer, the system would automatically forward, play and reverse the tape in the camcorder and then transfer the segments to the VHS tape adding the titles and music as specified. This was all done in analog except the titles and music would be digital but converted to an analog signal to be recorded on the VHS tape. Was that more or less the process? Interesting. Thank you both for sharing.
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Post by saby on Feb 19, 2024 20:26:55 GMT
I'm not sure what that yellow disc was used for - maybe a clean surface to place your camcorder if you were outdoors filming? My bet : it is a foldable mouse pad.
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Post by RicRoller on Feb 19, 2024 23:02:35 GMT
I don't recall being offered one of those yellow things when I bought Studio 12 - got (yet another) green sheet; I'm sure that by the time Pinnacle stopped giving those away with Studio I'd collected enough to make a tent!
Interesting memories of the old Video Director software; I started that way too...
Video Director 1.5, followed by an update to (I think) 2.5. The camcorder was controlled by Control-L (LANC) and the record VCR by infrared; the interface cable plugged into a serial COM port (USB ports hadn't appeared yet...). With a camcorder having timecode the editing was surprisingly accurate; with a decent record VCR it could consistently achieve an accuracy within 1-2 frames. Then came Video Director Studio 200 - which added a genlock device in a small purple box that connected to a bidirectional or ECP printer port. That could add still images and title overlays, an d also do quite an impressive range of transitions by grabbing a still from the last frame of the "outgoing" video and superimposing it (with various fade, wipe and slide motions available) over the "incoming" video. Studio 200 was superseded by Studio 400 (first one I owned with Pinnacle branding) - had the same genlock device but a far nicer editing interface (which remained little-changed right through to the end of the "legacy" Studio versions) After that I moved on to various capture cards (different brands) with mixed success (most successful was a Pinnacle DV500plus (Premiere 6.5)); then came back to Pinnacle for Studio version 7 or 8 and have stayed since! - I did dabble with Avid Liquid but didn't get on with it; strangely I had no trouble at all with Avid Studio and Pinnacle Studio 16 onwards!
BTW my first editing PC capable of non-linear editing had a truly monstrous hard disk size of 340 MB
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hojac
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Post by hojac on Feb 19, 2024 23:36:11 GMT
Hi Candive, nice to see you here. The VideoDirector work in the following way: - the computer was connected to the camcorder with Fire-wire cable. With this it was possible to manage the tape moving (forward, backward, stop, ...) - the video-tape provides the time-code of the tape frame position to the VideoDirector - with this information the VideoDirector build a clip-library (clipname, start time-code, end time-code), the video-clips are not transferred to the computer - the VideoDirector had an editing timeline similar to timeline today - track 1: video, still picture and simple transitions - track 2: Title, created with the VideoDirector - track 3: sound (e.g. .wav for voiceover) - track 4: SmartSound music - the export device was a tape video recorder. The recorder was controlled with a special cable (connected to COM interface of the computer and an infrared interface (like a remote control)). The video stream goes by cable from the Camcorder to the video recorder via a mixer device. The mixer added the other parts from the timeline. The timeline content was used the manage the camcorder tape moving and the video recorder tape moving - more complex devices are also possible with additional programs - unfortunately this was only possible with Windows 95 and no drivers for Windows NT were provided This was not as easy as export today, but it works and I edited my first movies.
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Post by Candive on Feb 20, 2024 4:15:52 GMT
Hi hojac and RicRoller , Thanks for the history lesson! During that time, I had moved from Canada to Australia. Purchased my first PAL camcorder - a Canon UC30 HI8. Interesting, I wasn't aware of this system but I admit I'm impressed in what it could do with the technology at the time.
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Post by saby on Feb 20, 2024 7:56:38 GMT
This thread looks like a WWI veterans meeting.
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Post by tndtnd on Feb 20, 2024 8:15:25 GMT
This thread looks like a WWI veterans meeting. you are too young to understand
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Post by tonyp on Feb 22, 2024 12:57:31 GMT
My first foray with an Pinnacle product was with the DV500Plus. Initially, I was comparing the Matrox RT2500 to the DV500Plus. The Matrox cost more, but offered some compelling features. So I built a computer for it using the recommended hardware suggested by Matrox. I bought the card from Videoguys on Long Island, NY. Plug in the card, add software, and nothing. After many calls talking, yes actually talking, with the tech support, I gave up, took the product back, and exchanged it for the DV500Plus and the bronze level transitions. Remember when we had to pay for that cheese?
Needless to say, the DV500 worked the first time and every time. So, I had every version of Pinnacle from S9-S15U, Pinnacle Edition-Avid Liquid Pro, Avid Studio-PS26U. The only product I didn't buy was the Pro One. I have to say though, my favorite was Avid Liquid Pro with the BOB. And while Avid offered us a great discount to move to Media Composer (many did), I didn't. You needed specific hardware, so I waited for the Liquid replacement, Avid Studio. It was supposed to be a trimmed down Liquid. But sadly, it wasn't even close. I was disappointed, but stayed with it and it's later incarnations.
I still have my S9Plus DVD, along with some upgrade DVD's, addon DVD's, and Avid Studio with the green screen still shrink wrapped.
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